Opponents Protest Transgender Bill on Frederick Road

Residents criticize Councilman Tom Quirk for introducing the bill.

A small group of Catonsville residents and opponents of the transgender bill stood outside Councilman Tom Quirk's office on Frederick Road Monday morning protesting the legislation.

Between 8 a.m. and 9:30 a.m., approximately 15 people stood outside of Quirk's council office, located at 754 Frederick Road, holding signs and waving at passersby.

The protest was organized by Catonsville resident Allison Baird, who said that she wanted Catonsville residents to be aware of the bill that Quirk introduced. Baird said she talked to many people in the area who were not aware of the bill, which was introduced by Quirk in January.

The purpose of the bill is to protect transgendered people against discrimination, but opponents have raised concerns about the bill's extension to dealing with transgendered people using public restrooms.

Baird said she is concerned about the safety of women and children that could be preyed upon in public restrooms by a predator posing as a transgendered person.

"If you make a law, then people will want to misuse the benefits of it," she said. "It's not the transgendered issue I'm worried about, it's everybody else."

The protestors held signs saying things like "not in my bathroom" and "Quirk betrayed children."

Quirk, who said he was not in his council office Monday, said he has spoken to the some of the protestors about their concerns.

While Quirk said he supports their right to protest, he said he disagrees with their concerns about safety.

"I think it's fear mongering and nonsense," he said.

The bill is slated to be voted on by the council on Tuesday night.

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Ron Wise February 21, 2012 at 09:25 PM
Golly, Deb! You're scarier than any transgender person.
Ron Wise February 21, 2012 at 09:35 PM
Think back to the sixties when the Blacks rioted to have the same rights as white people. They couldn't use any bathroom set aside for Whites. They were not welcome at the counters of any department store. They had to sit in the back of the bus, and God forbid, they should date or marry out of their own race! Change is needed. The only agenda is to be able to proudly walk down the street without fingers pointing and to have the same rights as everyone else. Some day the resistance will still be there from some pinheads, but by and large, no one will give difference a second thought. Change is necessary and will always be until we are all equal. Land of the free and home of the brave...We have a long way to go, but at least we're going.
RARE MARYLAND INDEPENDENT February 21, 2012 at 11:12 PM
Ok, so to our collective knowledge, no politician in the state of Maryland has ever hired a transgender person and they have not signed a pledge that they will actively seek to hire them. Mr. Quirk indicates the opposition is "nonsense." I would assume he means due diligence was done to make sure this bill is good for transgenders and the public both. What due diligence did he perform? Did he talk with business owners who have transgendered employees in the workplace? Did he discuss the amount of time that transgenders take off from work in relation to non transgenders? Did he discuss the insurance cost of transgender procedures, treatments and medicines that would increase insurance costs the other employees of the organization may need to pay? Did he discuss with business owners the cost of losing business or increasing business as a result of hiring transgenders? Did he talk with owners of apartment buildings any issues or concerns they may have? If he did these things, the results would be wonderfull to hear and he could use these facts to support his position - and he may even change some minds. Or was Mr. Quirk's looking for some signature legislation to put his name on and this was what he could find? Interesting, when these questions are asked, the opposition uses the bigot card. But they are questions that I believe any prudent business person would raise. What about the small business owner who gets slammed by this? What happens to them?
Buck Harmon February 21, 2012 at 11:36 PM
County Council members are elected public servant officials first, during their term in office. His profession should never get in the way of solid public service. Using the term mob is not fair or accurate. Please provide some answers to questions that have been raised repeatedly. "I think it's fear mongering and nonsense," he said. This statement is not acceptable when big questions remain unanswered ...a very bad job being done here.
Gina February 22, 2012 at 12:49 AM
Since you are so hung up about who's working for who can you list me who works for all politicians?? I want to know race, sex, marital status, religious beliefs, ages, the whole nine yards!! Sound obsurd??? So does your comment! what difference does any of the following questions you ask make?? I mean really do we ask how much Jews miss work as apposed to Christians they do have more holidays so lets stop hiring Jews cause they might miss more work! What about employees with children as apposed to employees w/o children. We shouldn't hire the ones with children cause they might cost more medical wise since they need more people covered then a single person and lets not forget that their snot nose kids are always getting sick which means more doctor bills and more time missed from work so lets not hire them cause they will miss more time then a single person. And what about all those white people (like yourself) that are living in the stone ages and don't want to shop somewhere that a black or hispanic works so out go them too! And for the record since you obviously have your head up your *** there is a big difference between transgender and transsexual. Just because someone is transgender doesn't mean they are going to have any operations to become transsexual so as for as medical procedures they wouldn't have anything different then the normal person. And even if they did have a sex change it isn't covered under medical insurance it's all out of pocket.
Ron Wise February 22, 2012 at 01:00 AM
You said: "Fact is, transgendered people have been using the bathroom of their choice for years. We don’t need the County Council to legislate bathroom use." That is true. So this whole conversation is a waste of time. I may be wrong, but I think R.M. Inde might have been saying that this storm was started to keep us from addressing more important issues. He might be right.
Ron Wise February 22, 2012 at 01:05 AM
My mother and sister lived their whole lives without using a public toilet. Those who fear the worst, should maybe do the same. When I was little, I learned to hold it until I got home. Now that I'm a Senior, I have to know the location of every bathroom on my route.
RARE MARYLAND INDEPENDENT February 22, 2012 at 01:20 AM
Gina, just to summarize. To your knowledge, no Maryland elected official has ever hired a trans**** in their private business. And to your knowledge, you are unaware of any due diligence performed or questions asked by those proposing this. Don't shoot the messenger for bringing news that you don't want to hear. It is interesting that members of the black clergy are very opposed to many of these initiatives also. I guess they are also bigots. Not sure why you are so excited, I am sure it is going to pass. The big losers are the people of Baltimore County who have not been duped by their elected officials. They have no plan to get people working, but have to come up with something to keep their name out in the publie eye. Also, I may or may not be "white." I believe the term "white" to be an offensive term. I prefer to use the term "clear."
Caroline Temmermand February 22, 2012 at 03:11 AM
The bill passed, a fact obvious to any who has been following tonight's events. My hope is that it will help foster greater understanding of one another and that it be so successful at bringing the community together that people will look back and say, "Why was this bill even necessary?" My prayers will be that all find the community create can be one in which each person is respect and equality is always a given...
Gina February 22, 2012 at 03:13 AM
What does you being white have to do with anything? I could careless what color you are. I don't believe I commented or insinuated that you were any color. When I said "like yourself" I wasn't saying you were white I was saying that you live in the stone ages just like all those white people that still believe blacks have no place in our society. In a nut shell it isn't anyone's business what someone's sexual preference and when they do pass the law in favor of transgenders your life will continue w/o skipping a beat.
Justice February 22, 2012 at 11:34 AM
I've met as many straight people both men and women as you stated sick in the head. I'm sure your religious affilated (repent and be saved statement), yet your judging other human beings. Hypocritical wouldn't you say? Why don't you say a prayer.
Ron Wise February 22, 2012 at 10:41 PM
Actually, some of us have already said "Why was this bill even necessary." There are so many issues that the community should come together on. Fear of the unknown is usually the basis of most prejudice. It's handed down through families without question. As the song from "South Pacific" goes, "They have to be carefully taught". There are many other values and traditions that could be passed on instead. How about empathy for your fellow men and women?
Richard Hiteshew February 22, 2012 at 11:03 PM
15 people who do not agree wiyh you is a mob. Been there, done that.
Common sense, please February 23, 2012 at 01:54 AM
Or this one: http://lgbtweekly.com/2011/12/13/transgender-woman-chrissy-polis-arrested-on-charges-of-disorderly-conduct/
Common sense, please February 23, 2012 at 01:57 AM
Rosedale transgender was arrested for assaulting a police officer..so what exactly would be the benefit of this new nanny state Baltimore County law had it been in effect at the time of the Mc Donalds beating? Quirk, you are a fool! Your name is deliciously ironic as well...Don;t believe me, check it out for yourself: http://thechroniclesofefrem.blogspot.com/2011/12/transgender-woman-chrissy-polis-assault.html
Common sense, please February 23, 2012 at 01:57 AM
Yeah, she's someone I would want to give special status to..over the protection of women and children... Unbelievable that Quirk stands with someone like Chrissy over children...JUST KEEP IT UP, FINE JOB, POLITICIANS.
Caroline Temmermand February 23, 2012 at 02:23 AM
"Common sense, please" resorts to school yard name calling (8:57 this evening) and then wants you all to believe that they have the right idea about how to treat others.
Buck Harmon February 23, 2012 at 03:00 AM
No reports of problems in Baltimore Co.either... so why is the law needed?
RARE MARYLAND INDEPENDENT February 23, 2012 at 03:04 AM
CSP - Nice work. But you have to assume this is going to pass. If you want change, you are going to need to mobilize the voters and create change. Need to be orgainzed but need to determine what you want to do. Can either try to get the law changed back or change the leadership. Changing leadership may be the way to go. Need to do this at the grass roots level, but you need to develop a plan.
Buck Harmon February 23, 2012 at 03:22 AM
15 people with genuine concerns about an elected official public servant doing a bad job deserve to be heard. If 15 people gather to have questions answered, and Quirk knows , That deep down inside he is doing a dumb thing, avoidance would be the instinctive reaction. If he felt confident in the endeavor, he would welcome the masses. He chose avoidance.... there was no mob...if you've been there,done that, you must have REALLY been wrong. Quirk has demonstrated a form of discrimination by discounting and ignoring the opinion and wishes of concerned citizens. The arrogance attached to an unwillingness to clearly communicate with those that do not agree with him, is not becoming of an elected official public servant. If he were my employee, I would simply fire him for this kind of bad behavior..
Buck Harmon February 23, 2012 at 03:29 AM
I'm still waiting for Mark Patro or Quirk to answer the questions that I asked early on in this, and other links. The grey zone standard response stuff has been thoroughly exhausted by now... Could you please provide some answers that are as direct as the questions?
Ron Wise February 23, 2012 at 08:46 PM
Don't hold your breath!
Ron Wise February 23, 2012 at 08:55 PM
I believe in common sense, although I don't see too much these days. Chrissy is but one misbehaving person and not the standard for all. I do have one question, though...How do we tell the difference between Transsexuals, Transvestites and cross-dressers? Maybe we should ask Security to pat them down at the rest room entrance. And what about women who feel they have a man trapped inside? I'm being a little facetious here, but really....This "What if" stuff is a waste of time. Wait 'til a problem arises, then fix it.
Buck Harmon February 23, 2012 at 11:34 PM
Having common sense is like a punishment.....You always have to deal with those without it..
Buck Harmon February 23, 2012 at 11:57 PM
The inability to answer very basic questions that pertain to this bill speaks volumes to the integrity the went into creating this jiffy lube bill.
laura kooyman February 24, 2012 at 03:16 AM
Like Minded People Unite! Steve, Jenna, Gina, Caroline, Donna, Mark, David...we should do happy hour:) Thanks for the comments--I enjoyed the debate--I think this is one of the longest comment threads lately.
Buck Harmon February 24, 2012 at 03:19 AM
Celebrate the new jiffy lube law...yea...great thought....sit in a circle...
Caroline Temmermand February 24, 2012 at 04:57 AM
Count me in - I'm up for celebrating this bill and the hours old marriage bill passage, too. It is fabulous that so many are getting on-board with the idea that equality is an essential human right.
Buck Harmon February 27, 2012 at 06:21 PM
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/nBiJB8YuDBQ" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>....something about new law..
Ron Whitehead March 02, 2012 at 12:21 AM
thank you,councilman Ron Whitehead, riverview


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