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Turning Up the Temperature on Air Conditioning Debate

Comptroller Peter Franchot is practically Pavlov's answer to elected officials and the subject of air conditioning in public schools.

Over the last year or so, Franchot has challenged Baltimore County officials to find ways to air condition county schools under the auspices that the state provides much of the funding for school construction and renovation projects.

And he'll likely get another chance today when the Board of Public Works, of which he is a member, will be asked to approve $7 million in requests for school projects. The money comes from a bump earlier this year in the state's alcohol sales tax.

A group of parents has been trying to organize a contingent of students and others to appear in Annapolis at this morning's meeting to make their case for air-conditioned classrooms.

On the list for approval are seven schools all on the west side of the county including:

  • Woodlawn and Franklin High Schools
  • Cedarmere, Glyndon and Randallstown elementary schools
  • Pikesville Middle School
  • Chatsworth School

About $3.3 million is slated to go toward replacing windows at Woodlawn High School. The county notes in its request that 56 percent of the school's population is eligible for free or reduced-price lunches.

Other projects include window, blinds and door replacement, roof repairs and replacements, locker room renovations and replacement.

But no air conditioning. Franchot, in a letter to county officials earlier this year, asked the county to consider purchasing window units with the $7 million check.

The county says it will take as much as $450 million to put air conditioning in all county schools—money that it doesn't have in these tight economic times.

In the last few weeks, Franchot has turned up the heat on the issue traveling to Baltimore County on at least three occasions and having a meeting with County Executive Kevin Kamenetz in a Towson area restaurant.

Shortly there after, Franchot traveled to Stoneleigh Elementary. Kamenetz appeared on Midday with Dan Rodricks where he made some not so veiled comments about Franchot's call for air conditioned classrooms.

Diane Brazil

10:31 am on Wednesday, October 19, 2011

After attending the PHIA meeting and hearing Kevin Kamemetz I was impressed even though I was not a supporter. BUT he lost my respect when he said the public schools only need AC 10 days a year. Anyone that deals with a non air condition school knows it is not just the days over 100 degrees that effect the air in the schools - humid days, days following a warm weekend and days in August when the teachers are setting up their class rooms. Ask anyone with asthma how it feels to work or study in a school without AC. I think Kevin Kamenetz should pick a non AC school and set up his office and than count the uncomfortable days.

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Tim

12:49 pm on Wednesday, October 19, 2011

I was the one who asked that question and mentioned that although the county has no direct control over its state education funds, it was telling that outside of Baltimore City, our county had the lowest % of schools with AC in them.

I thought the 10 day argument was bogus. First of all, it's 10 days they have to be sent home for part of the day. What about the other 25-40 days where it's simply uncomfortable to be there (but not dangerous)?

The other part, which I was completely dumbfounded by, was when he suggested the county add "heat days" to the schedule like snow days. In a more open forum, I'd have followed up with "Umm Kevin, you do realize extra heat days would just compound the problem, right?"

The air conditioning issue has become a touchstone issue for me more then any other these days.

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Tim

12:51 pm on Wednesday, October 19, 2011

I also wanted to add that at this point, I'm buying into his rationale as to why more is not yet spent on it. This is really a state issue. They are much better equipped to deal with this being they get the bulk of county income to begin with.

Additionally, it's not like Kamenetz has been the County Executive for 12 years either. This is an awful issue he's inheirited and with the irresponsible state government under O'Malley spending like a drunken sailor they are now deciding maybe they can squeeze the localities in order to "balance their budget".

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Concerned Mom

2:14 am on Friday, October 21, 2011

As someone who works in one of these nightmare of a classrooms, I couldn't agree more!

Towsonite

11:19 am on Wednesday, October 19, 2011

The county's plan to spend money to update windows may also be a disaster in the making for a school that doesn't have air conditioning. Let's not forget that Ridgely Middle's school windows were replaced long before it got A/C (after a very long battle, of course). Unlike the old windows, however, the new windows barely opened more than a crack - which only made a hot building hotter, with less air flow.
As for Diane's comment - she's right on the money about how hot it gets for prolonged periods of time

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Matthew

1:37 pm on Wednesday, October 19, 2011

Why is all of the money going to schools on the west side?

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Jen

3:35 pm on Wednesday, October 19, 2011

Are you sure that the money for AC is going to Pikesville Middle School? That school is air conditioned and has very few windows. Pikesville High really needs updated windows and air conditioning. Is this a mistake?

Also, I think that anytime that school is in session, AC's should not be turned on at the board of education.

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Matthew

7:03 pm on Wednesday, October 19, 2011

Beares...rhetorical question my friend. I know all too well. He only has 3 more years to grease their pockets.

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Jimmy

7:40 pm on Wednesday, October 19, 2011

Hmmm, didn't Mr K have a platform item about air conditioning county schools? You mean he lied to us to get votes? He has no control of what is installed in his county schools? There are some really old schools here on the east side of town that are in desperate need of renovation and expansion....Why is all the money being spent on the west side of town? I guess he can't see the needs of the east side from his house.

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Towsonite

9:07 am on Thursday, October 20, 2011

As I understand it, Dumbarton Middle wasn't even on the list of schools considered for A/C in the future. How can that be?

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PastorLorenzo Epps

10:11 am on Thursday, October 20, 2011

Baltimore county cannot afford air conditioning...end school early to deal with the heat....

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Tim

12:21 pm on Thursday, October 20, 2011

For the short term, this is probably the best option. It's still lousy though as it affects kids education. The air conditioning problem is more of a longer term issue, and really something the State and Owe'Malley should be addressing - considering they control the lion's share of education based funding.

I'm still dying to know how Baltimore County got so screwed on A/C in schools relative to other counties. I'm suspecting corrupt politics, but it's just that- a suspicion.

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PastorLorenzo Epps

9:23 am on Saturday, October 22, 2011

I'm still amazed that "leaders" haven't cut their own salaries in this depression! If leaders aren't cutting their salaries...but cutting jobs and educational needs...then...then...it's time for the people to cut these leaders out of their positions.

Matthew

1:28 pm on Thursday, October 20, 2011

Gross mismanagement for a LONG time. BCPS has not been successful because of Joe Hairston; we've been successful despite him. We will spend millions on non-priority capital items, a bloated administrative structure, overpriced technology (by purchasing from his buddy's company), etc., etc., etc.

He's got plenty of nice new furniture and A/C in his office, but as soon as you criticize something, he tells you that you are a racist and that you need to read that god-awful book...

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Concerned Mom

2:19 am on Friday, October 21, 2011

Unless you actually work in a school that does not have air conditioning and has old, faulty windows that don't open, and work in a classroom that has no cross-ventilation with an internal classroom temperature of over 90 degrees and a humidity level of 95% for days on end, then you have absolutely no right to make ANY comments against air conditioning in schools. I invite you to Lutherville Lab Elementary School on days such as these and have you do all of the physical things necessary to maintain a special needs classroom and then see how you like it.

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Joe

3:44 pm on Friday, October 21, 2011

You are 100% correct. I spent several years teaching in a non air conditioned school and it is absolute tortue on any day the temperature reaches 85 or more. The classroom temps are above 90 by noon, and if the sun hits your side of the building in the afternoon you just get roasted. I challenge anyone to get work accomplished in those conditions. I know it is expensive, but all schools need to have AC. It is really unfair to the schools that do not!

Olivia Van Zandt

3:21 pm on Friday, October 21, 2011

What were Kamenetz's "not so veiled comments"??

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Barbh

3:28 pm on Friday, October 21, 2011

The bottom line is that there is absolutely no excuse for these schools not to have air conditioning. I am willing to escalate this matter if others are willing. I would really like to see this issue be more visible in the media. Anybody have any ideas on how we can draw more attention.

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Concerned Mom

4:23 pm on Friday, October 21, 2011

We need to insist and demand that whoever is making these unfair and unreasonable decisions come into these classrooms not once, but several times during the worst days and sit in these classrooms all day, try to eat in the sweltering cafeteria, go to a phs-ed class, go run around outside for recess, and then go back to boiling classrooms and try to get overheated children to pay attention while they are listless and unable to concentrate. We could also try to record on a flip cam the internal room temperatures and humidity levels each time it hits unhealthy levels and send the evidence to these insensitive officials. It is unfair and rediculous that many kids in neighboring communities get to be in healthy learning environments while me and my children do not! We are punished because our school (Lutherville) happens to be old and outdated. I am fed up!

Barbh

7:54 am on Saturday, October 22, 2011

I agree with you Concerned Mom. I guess Kevin K makes the final decision on the money issue, however, Tom Quirk could be contacted too (for Catonsville). Also, state representatives can be contacted. I'm not sure if the PTA is a way to go or not. The PTA may be able to rally parents on a larger scale. It would really be nice if the teachers and kids didn't have to go through another heat spell without A/C.

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DARRELL HAMMERBACKER

8:51 am on Saturday, October 22, 2011

Come on people! The County is suffering very badly. Have you ever watched the County Council dishing out money for it's Projects around the Westside and its Perks for this and that! I think instead of private Companies making most of the money from Speed Cameras they should be managed by County employees,we should also put cameras on every road and intersections, this would increase the revenue.We should put our own Solar Panels on every light we pay BGE for ,cutting Utility cost.We should get rid of all the County Vehicles,Fire,Police,Buses that use fossel fuels and use Hybrids or Electric.Can you imagine electric and solar power for every County piece of equiptment !We'd be able to air conditon every school.If we don't do this I'm sure the Teachers Union will put a temperture clause in their contract.Am I being fictitious ? Completely.

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Jimmy

3:40 pm on Sunday, October 23, 2011

Darrell, you are off the hook, The county has a hybrid fleet and it costs more because of the added pricetag and the extra maintnance they require. The problem comes from the leadership's unwillingness to cut their perks. A couple of years ago Mr K managed to get a bil passed to give the county exec a 100% pension after only 1 term in office, and the councilpeople get a 100% pension after only 4 terms. The next best pension in the county is the police who get 60% after 20 years. I wonder if the politicians pay into the pension fund.

Speed cameras are a big racket...how long did it take for everyone to realize they had to slow down to half a block before the camera then speed up again a block later? Sure there are less tickets being issued for the cameras now...Mr K, people in this town are smarter than you think...

Pastor Epps, I'm with you...Positions and services shouldn't be eleminated untill the leaders take a pay cut...they will try to tell you it's against the county code....well then write an ammendment to allow it! You have the power to give yourself a raise Mr K, you have the power to take it away too!

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Calm down

7:53 am on Monday, October 24, 2011

Mr. Jimmy, instead of repeating your lies, why don't you just get over the fact that your guy lost the election? There were no changes made to the County Exec pension, and he doesn't collect 100% after one term in office. You should be happy that you have a cushy job in the fire department and keep your lying mouth shut.

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Tim

4:07 pm on Monday, October 24, 2011

fire fighters have a cushy job???

seriously??

Jimmy

4:00 pm on Monday, October 24, 2011

BTW, Mr Calmdown, I am not a county employee, just a conerned citizen. I tell no lies but it sounds like you have been drinking the coolaid. And if you think the firefighters have a cushy job, you are severly uninformed. They work in all kinds of weather, on holidays, so you can be home with your children Christmas morning. They have one of the most dangerous jobs, and more firefighters die every year in the line of duty than Police officers, who by the way, have a hard job as well. You sleep well at night because there are men and women willing to sacrifice their lives to protect your ignorant life.

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Concerned Mom

6:11 pm on Monday, October 24, 2011

Let's try to stay on topic please!

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Robert Armstrong

6:21 pm on Monday, October 24, 2011

Neither police officers or firefighters are in the top 10 most dangerous professions as ranked by OSHA.
I think that is just something they tell their girlfriends.

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Jimmy

8:46 pm on Monday, October 24, 2011

Didn't say it was in the top 10 but you don't see memorials dedicated to King crab fishsermen. It is a dangerous job, and nowhere near cushy

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Bart

8:41 am on Tuesday, October 25, 2011

Farm workers are way up there. All those sharp instruments and heavy machinery.

Barbh

6:43 pm on Monday, October 24, 2011

And, back to the air conditioning for our kids and grandkids, do you think this issue could be pursued by the PTA or is that out of their boundaries?

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Bart

7:02 pm on Monday, October 24, 2011

PTA is the association of Parents and Teachers. They can advocate for anything they choose. But that's all they can do. They have no power.

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