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Moms Talk: What Would Happen if Parents Stopped Volunteering in Schools?

With budget cuts, schools are relying more on PTAs and volunteers. Is this a good or bad thing?

 

"Stop me before I volunteer again..."

 So reads a magnet on my fridge that sits exactly at my eye level.  I read it every day.  Sometimes I even incorporate the philosophy into my real, actual life.  Not often, though.

A few days ago, I was congratulating myself on having drastically reduced my volunteering.  Before I knew it, I was meeting with the principal of one of my child's schools about playground improvements. After that meeting, I ended up promising to donate and load an iPod with music to be played during the lunches, and offering to be the point person for anyone willing to volunteer helping in the cafeteria.  What???

 Catonsville schools are a great source of pride – rightly so!  Sometimes, though, it feels like we volunteer with a vengeance.  My question to you is, what would happen if parents stopped volunteering in our schools?   

Don’t answer so fast.  It’s easy to list the things we’d lose.  Feel free to do that, but don’t be afraid to consider (and…gasp… say it out loud!) what we’d gain – from the practical to the philosophical.

 One more thing – I know this column is called “Mom’s Talk,” but I encourage any member of our community (and beyond) to consider and comment.  Dads, grandparents, teachers, second-graders, and local business owners alike have something valuable to contribute to this discussion, too!  Ready?  Go!

Kirsten

1:38 pm on Wednesday, February 16, 2011

in my own experience, my volunteerism has been met with indifference at best. Mind you, other parents are very quick to say thank you for help, and the rare teacher is enthusiastic about parents' involvement, but for the most part, I think this may be a question best considered by school administrations.

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Aliza Worthington

1:42 pm on Wednesday, February 16, 2011

That's a very unfortunate vibe you're getting from the school. I wonder what contributes to that attitude from the staff? Open-ended questions - that's a habit of mine... sorry!

I'm so glad, at least, other parents appreciate your time and energy. I'd also be willing to bet the kids (yours and others) really enjoy your presence. (I know I do!)

tstout

1:45 pm on Wednesday, February 16, 2011

In such a test-driven academic society, I do believe that without parent volunteers, the students and schools would not have the same opportunities to be creative. I have to say most parents often enjoy volunteering for the 'non-educational' activities such as class parties, events, etc. and put more efforts towards planning and organizing, rather than one on one time with the students. (I can easily fall into this group) Refocusing our efforts so that we work along with the teachers in aiding students that need specific skills devlopment would probably be more beneficial, and less stressful!

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Aliza Worthington

1:59 pm on Wednesday, February 16, 2011

Good point about parent help allowing the teachers to be more creative, and great suggestion about shifting the focus of our efforts. Personally, I don't mind helping with teacher planning tasks (cutting, copying, stapling, etc.) and helping students one-on-one with skills. But if that's not what a volunteer enjoys contributing, I think helping out at parties, events, etc. is a lovely way for him or her to connect and let kids and the school know he or she supports them. Of course, parents who can't make it in to the classroom for help and/or parties have many other ways to show support.

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Jennifer Cooper

1:59 pm on Wednesday, February 16, 2011

Well, here's the thing... I think it would be bad. Now perhaps that's short sighted of me because I have heard horror stories from friends in other states where parents are having to volunteer to teach ART classes because the funding has been so drastically cut they did away with art and music. Now that's pretty extreme.

But I do strongly believe in the home-school bond. And I don't know if volunteering is the only way to strengthen that or if it could be achieved by other methods.

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Aliza Worthington

2:06 pm on Wednesday, February 16, 2011

I count ourselves among the lucky that our kids' special subjects have not been so affected! I hope it never comes to that, here! I think cutting back on volunteering would be bad for certain reasons, too. I can see, though, ways in which it may even be GOOD, educationally-speaking.

The home-school bond, I think, is strengthened in many ways - many of which are not outwardly apparent. Checking homework, considering the teacher's point of view in a dispute/complaint with a child before judging/taking action, instilling and enforcing the importance of practice and study all show kids that you support the school, and its mission.

Bhek

2:18 pm on Wednesday, February 16, 2011

I am discovering that we HAVE to find alternative ways to support our children and their school. It is logistically getting tougher and tougher to facilitate parents' desire to be in the classroom, but resources are getting shorter at the same time and help is needed. The traditional avenues of classroom volunteers and PTA need to be re-evaluated and re-invented. I continue to have faith in the problem solvin abiliy of a collective of parents with varied educational and professional background. If we work at home or in a traditional environment, we make our bones as solution speciists.

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Jennifer Cooper

2:22 pm on Wednesday, February 16, 2011

Bhek, can I high-five you right now?

Bhek

2:28 pm on Wednesday, February 16, 2011

Only if you promise to correct my typos. Sometimes I hate my iPhone. Lol!

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Aliza Worthington

3:29 pm on Wednesday, February 16, 2011

Hee! Dang mobile phones.

Bhek, I so share your faith in a population of kind people with good intentions! Our adaptability is what makes us so dynamic. In what ways do you think school volunteering needs re-invention? What do you think needs to change?

And, I am still waiting to hear people's thoughts on how less volunteering might be beneficial... does anyone think there are ways in which it would?

Alicia Copeland

3:32 pm on Wednesday, February 16, 2011

As a former teacher I know how important to let the school know you are involved. I try to avoid volunteering in a classroom because I don't want to be in the situation where the teacher is not able to deal w/the children and me being a volunteer really doesn't make him/her feel I am "qualified" enough to reprimand a child that she could not handle. So I am a member of the PTA, I help out in the school store, I volunteer to sell tickets and yearbooks, etc. But I have the time to now that I took "early retirement" :)

A lot of schools depend heavily on volunteers and not for the right reasons. They save the menial tasks for volunteers to do which makes many parents uneasy about helping out. Volunteers are there to help and supplement. If parents stopped volunteering more money out of a nonexistent budget would have to be shelled out for more paraeducators to do the things that teachers are unable to do. Since we don't have the money, teachers would be given more tasks leading to an even faster rate of burnout and even less desiring careers in the teaching profession. Are we ready to lose that? I hope not.

While some volunteer with a vengeance I wish that more parents from elementary to high (YES, I said high school) school would take 1 hour on their day off to do SOMETHING at their child's school. Filing, cutting out shapes, copying papers, calling other parents. It makes a difference even if your child doesn't say it out loud. And it alleviates the same old parents!

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Aliza Worthington

3:46 pm on Wednesday, February 16, 2011

Alicia, thank you so much for your input - especially considering the many hats you wear. Wow, I wasn't even considering the discipline issue from a volunteer standpoint. I imagine being a mom and teacher yourself makes it even harder to hold back.

You're so right about the "same old parents." There is often a small core of volunteers who do a large percentage of the work. What would happen if they reduced the scope of their commitments even a little? Is there a chance it would motivate other parents to step up once they see what is lost? In support of the teachers AND the kids?

Throw out some outreach ideas, girl! So many ways parents can facilitate and improve the educational system - many hands make light work. Great thoughts on the merits of the menial, and the far-reaching effects of teachers losing that sort of support.

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Jennifer Cooper

3:49 pm on Wednesday, February 16, 2011

Do you think middle/high school administrators are willing to open that door to parents? I ask that as I have no experience with them yet.

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Aliza Worthington

4:45 pm on Wednesday, February 16, 2011

I can tell you from experience that at least at Catonsville Middle School, parent volunteers are welcomed by the staff with open arms, and it's not hard to find a way to help out. I can also tell from experience that parent volunteers are NOT welcomed by their middle school-aged CHILDREN with open arms... (or maybe it is just MY children...)

Cindy H

3:55 pm on Wednesday, February 16, 2011

During my childhood, mothers were discouraged from volunteering at my elementary school -- AT ALL! This was the norm, if you can believe it. (Of course, this was also a time where breastfeeding was considered a renegade activity... I'm talking about the mid-60's here, folks.) However, I remember just LOVING it when Mom was able to chaperone a field trip and I would have been very happy to have her working at the school more often.

As a past member of my childrens' cooperative preschool where parents ran the school, with the exception of the teaching position, it is hard for me to imagine any benefit to having LESS or NO volunteering. It's much easier to reinforce, and understand, what's happening at school if you have a clue what is actually going on there through firsthand experience.

I suppose we might have a better idea of what education truly costs if there weren't so much free labor, but we would certainly lose a large chunk of enrichment activity.

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Jennifer Cooper

4:05 pm on Wednesday, February 16, 2011

Cindy, total tangent so Aliza's going to have to step in here and get me back on track, but! two things: 1. My MIL talks about how the breastfeeding moms were separated in the hospital from the formula feeding moms. As if they needed to be kept behind closed doors. Crazy isn't it?!

And 2. you know there's a movement to go back to a more 60s/70s style of parenting (free range and all) and I'm all, hey, let's take SOME things from that time, but not everything. ;)

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Aliza Worthington

5:25 pm on Wednesday, February 16, 2011

Well, bringing up 60s/70s-style parenting can certainly be brought to bear on this discussion! I don't know if my parents were discouraged from volunteering, but I do know there was a lot less of it back then. Yet, there are many ways in which we are recognizing the value of old-school-type learning. How many times have we heard the "back to basics!" cry? "Kids today are not equipped with the building blocks of the subjects they are studying in high school!" Is the pendulum swinging back to where it needs to be as far as basic knowledge is concerned? And if so, how can parents help support that endeavor?

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Cindy H

6:54 pm on Wednesday, February 16, 2011

I often wonder what would happen if we just took the curriculum my sister had (class of '65 --deep in the "space race" ) and implemented it today. From my discussions with her, it is apparent that the materials she tackled in high school were the equivalent of what I saw in college. Her education was definitely better than mine in terms of quality. By the time I was in HS in the 70's, the school systems were experimenting with open classrooms and the like. It's funny how the pendulum swings back and forth!

Dawn

4:49 pm on Wednesday, February 16, 2011

My mom always volunterred at my school growing up- in the late 1970's early 1980's, she voluteered to teach computer lab (totally new then!). Now that I am employed part time, rather than full time, I practically BEG for volunteer opportunities at my girls' school. This is the same school district that I grew up in. My mom's volunteerism led to a full time job in the school system- I am -gulp- 40 and she has been in the same school system since her volunteer stint began in the 1970's! Not a lot of volunteer opportunities now- except at party times, events, and once per month work groups (which always seem to fall on a day that I am working...) and I wonder if it isn't a liability issue? BTW- I am in Montgomery Co., MD

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Aliza Worthington

5:31 pm on Wednesday, February 16, 2011

Thanks for your comment, Dawn - and it is certainly helpful to know from which county you write! :)

The liability issue you mention ties in with the training parents (at least in Balt. Co.) have to complete before they are allowed to even chaperone a trip or help with a party. So, to would you attribute the fact that, in Mont. Co., there don't seem to be many volunteer opportunities?

Is it possible some school cultures emit the vibe that they want to be left alone to do their jobs without potential interference/oversight/input from volunteers? As a former teacher myself, I see the validity in that - especially tying into what Alicia was saying above - how many tasks that would actually make teachers' lives easier are not all that attractive to some parent volunteers...

Bhek

4:56 pm on Wednesday, February 16, 2011

As an active PTA officer for a few years now, I am regularly gobsmacked by the difference between the intention of the organization and the reality. It was designed as an advocacy group. A lobbying organization with local, county, state and federal levels. It has become a gathering and organizing of volunteerism within the walls of your own school. Less volunteerism could free parents up to help fight budget issues and keep politicians accountable. Less volunteerism could eliminate excuses to not coach a rec team or lead a scout troop. There are a million ways to be involved in our chlordane lives without claiming classroom volunteering is the only way to "be involved". Don't get me wrong. Our schools would seize up without the assistance of those critical parents with servant hearts, but a little goes a long way. Can I get more than 1 volunteer to go to a county board meeting and report back to the community?

I believe in Parents in school. I believe in providing the school with what it can do for itself. But I would ask all parents to question their own motivations. What starts out personal becomes a community issue the minute you enter the classroom.

Disclaimer: These are all questions I had to ask myself and had trouble answering. Just being provocative.

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Aliza Worthington

5:37 pm on Wednesday, February 16, 2011

Okay, now can I high-five you? Thought-provoking is what I'm looking for!

Melinda

7:18 pm on Wednesday, February 16, 2011

I am one of 9 out of 24 parents who volunteer for my son's class at least once a month. And I say for his class because in two years I have rarely been asked to be in the class. Instead I work on clerical tasks outside the classroom. I want to be clear I am glad that his well educated and dedicated teachers are in the room teaching and not in the hall copying and collating.

But if I wasn't there: perhaps high schools students would have after school jobs doing these tasks and learning to be good employees; perhaps this environmentally conscious elementary school would have to move toward less paper; perhaps publishers would find a way to create workbooks that functioned they way they are used (instead of volunteers ripping out and sorting whole chapters);

I can also imagine what an impact it could have if all 24 families volunteered 1 hour once a month, but that might be for another thread.

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Aliza Worthington

10:54 pm on Wednesday, February 16, 2011

Hi, Melinda - what thoughtful ideas. And, wow! 9 out of 24 sounds like a great percentage to me! I absolutely love the notion of schools employing students in this capacity, though I wonder about the logistics involved.

Educational publishing is BIG business, indeed - it would be so empowering to have some kind of impact on which materials are used. I don't even know who makes those decisions, but I wonder how much say actual educators (by that I mean active teachers) have in these choices.

Thanks so much for your comment - so much of what so many have put forth here could be material for their own threads!

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Penny Riordan

9:12 pm on Wednesday, February 16, 2011

Such great comments and dialogue all! I am so proud to hope these type of positive, community building topics on the site. If you have any suggestions, for future discussions let me know! Thanks again for sharing your thoughts!

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Aliza Worthington

10:55 pm on Wednesday, February 16, 2011

Proud to be part of it! Thanks for the forum, Penny!

missy wheeler

10:03 am on Monday, February 21, 2011

I am a teacher and I want to say thank you to all of the volunteers that help in my classroom and in our school! I have been blessed with tons of help over the years!

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Aliza Worthington

3:04 pm on Friday, February 25, 2011

I am so happy to hear that!!! Teachers deserve so much support!

Max Olivewood

1:26 pm on Friday, February 25, 2011

Though your question is a generality, it can only really be answered in terms of specific individuals. One might feel invigorated and worthy as a result of volunteering while another mightl feel put upon. Now here's the thing: One who volunteers grudgingly will not, in the end, make a positive contribution. Those who do it joyfully will. Sooooo, after honestly weighing the practical/emotional plusses and minuses, those whose psyche is nourished by volunteering should, and those whose isn't err by so doing. I do not see the end of parent volunteerism around the corner, but if it were to occur, the slack would either be picked up by others, or the school program would be correspondingly impoverished.

One thing is for sure: No child wants to hear about the horrible day a parent spent volunteering in his/her school. Unspoken guilt by association! A resentful but sensitive parent volunteer will at least spare the kids that.

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Aliza Worthington

3:17 pm on Friday, February 25, 2011

I couldn't have said it better myself!

"One who volunteers grudgingly will not, in the end, make a positive contribution. Those who do it joyfully will..." This is a great general guideline with which parents should make an honest self-assessment, keeping in mind the picture you paint in your last paragraph. Whether the parent communicates "the horrible day" they may have had out loud or in some other way, I am sure child gets the message regardless.

Thank you so much for sharing your wisdom!

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DJ Cronin

7:19 am on Saturday, March 12, 2011

As a parent and volunteer manager I found your story fascinating. Although I reside on the other side of the world I am sure that your experience resonates globally. I have linked your story to my blog

http://djcronin.blogspot.com/

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Aliza Worthington

3:10 pm on Sunday, March 13, 2011

Hi, DJ! Welcome to Catonsville - I'm so glad you wrote in! I would love to hear what role school volunteers play in other parts of the world, and how they feel about it. I think your blog is fascinating and extremely relevant to the topic at hand. As it happens, our school volunteers often end up managing large groups of other volunteers, making them volunteer volunteer managers, I suppose!

Thank you VERY MUCH for the kind words - I agree the readers' responses here are worth a look, and feel very fortunate to be hosting conversations with such thoughtful people. I'm honored you linked it to your blog, and imagine you'll have great success generating a similar discussions in your part of the world! Cheers to you Down Under!

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